Signal Hive hits homerun in January!

Dear all,

We are pleased to report Signal Hive achieved its 2nd highest month of profitability/ROI in January 2017. While Sake Turbo dominated yet again, The Knick and Pavel's rivalry reached new heights as both delivered a 2nd month of close to 70% profitability. Wave and Dive delivered profitability as well. Find out more inside and contact us for any information you require.

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See you all in February!
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  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    This is the performance of Sake Turbo, one of Signal Hive performance leaders for around a year. It shows how it fared through Brexit, the Binary.comm incident and the Trump election.

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  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    only sake gets these results....the bad delay on signal hive's copying will destroy win rate of auto copiers.
  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    Hello thanks for your feedback,

    Those are based on client accounts that are copying Sake Turbo. All data is straight out of the binary.com transaction history. With regards to delays, not sure what you mean; the replication is near-instant < 0.3 seconds across 99% of trades. There are delays if you are referring to Hawkeye, but that is a risk management layer that will wait for a better price on the signal, so it will take it "late". The chart above is Sake Turbo on ER mode = instant replication.

    Below you can see Dive, Wave, Pavel and Knick actual client results on autotrader mode:

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    Thanks,
    Team BSB
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    Signal Hive - The No.1 Binary Signals Marketplace.

  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    if the replication is instant, how come signal hive keeps getting a better ....a WAY better itm rate than the auto er? makes no sense.
  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    edited February 7
    gabman32 said:

    if the replication is instant, how come signal hive keeps getting a better ....a WAY better itm rate than the auto er? makes no sense.

    Jibril,

    It actually makes perfect sense if you take time to read what we are saying.

    If you are asking why the MAN ITM is different than Auto ER ITM that is because the MAN ITM is priced off of Oanda API; a different quote feed than BInary.com. The auto-er, actual client autotrader replications, are from Binary.com's API.

    20% of Signal Hive's userbase trades the signals manually. Therefore, MAN ITM is a loose reference indication since different people have different brokers when trading the signals manually. So we use a reference quote feed which is Oanda. Auto-ER ITM has no "discrepancy"; the signals replicate near-instantly and the resulting ITM is what it is, depending on how quickly the price moved.

    The performance charts we have posted above are from our Autotrader, so they are based on auto-ER. so, no, not "only Sake gets those entries", those are client accounts on Binary.com. Those are real results. We do not do marketing based on MAN ITM, thats a known fact in our community for over a year now.

    See this live screenshot from our Leaderboard; you can see that Autotrader ER ITM is better than MAN ITM in some instances and in some other instances its reversed so, again, no "signal hive doesn't keep getting a WAY better itm rate than auto er".

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  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    this would mean that the stats on signal hive are incredibly misleading, as the so called 64% on 5000-6000 signals fired would be in the lowers 40's on the real binary.com account, you should take out your oanda prices because this is inflating your ACTUAL itm %. In reality, your actual win rate is not over 60% on your robots and you know it, it is less than 50%
  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    edited February 8
    gabman32 said:

    this would mean that the stats on signal hive are incredibly misleading, as the so called 64% on 5000-6000 signals fired would be in the lowers 40's on the real binary.com account, you should take out your oanda prices because this is inflating your ACTUAL itm %. In reality, your actual win rate is not over 60% on your robots and you know it, it is less than 50%

    Hello Jibril,

    Actually, that is factually inaccurate as well. Most our bots are not only above 60% on auto-trader which is as you say "ACTUAL" ITM, but some are between 65-70% such as Wave & Dive. Read the following carefully because it still seems you are rather confused:

    1) It's precisely because we show MAN ITM% vs. AUT ER ITM % in every weekly performance update, we are trying to show clients the differential. That is the opposite of "misleading". Go to our performance updates section on www.binaryoptions.net and you can see for about 2 years now we follow this best-practice in transparency.

    2) Go to http://app.signalhive.com/hybrid/hybrid-analytics.php to verify the below screenshots I am posting proving that our bots are profitable (and some, highly profitable) on auto-trader for over an entire year on what you call "ACTUAL" ITM. Their MAN ITM % stats are even higher, but irrelevant.

    Dive, 128 wins, 68% ITM from Jan 2016-Feb 2017
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    Curve, 208 wins, 61% ITM from Jan 2016-Feb 2017

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    Peak, 59 wins, 61% ITM from Jan 2016-Feb 2017
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    Wave, 41 wins, 65% ITM from Aug 15th (when it was relaunched)-Feb 2017
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    If you're going to look at the unprofitable two-three robots out of 8, and conclude that all our robots are unprofitable, that would be rather silly.

    3) You personally were a client of Hive auto-trader under the name Jibril2400 (Jibril Gabriel, with "gabman" being your online identity) during April 1st-18th May, 2016. We have your full details; a snapshot of which I have posted below. You auto-traded 133 trades of which 80 were wins, translating to a 60-61% ITM. So not only are our bots profitable but you were profitable using them, despite our auto-trading still having been in its teething-phase back then. Whether you were on a binary.com real or virtual account, we don't know or care but you can't argue against stats.

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    Hope that helps :)
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  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    edited February 8
    Gabman is the same troll who got his ass handed to him by Ryan at Signal Push a few years ago. He lied on this forum about how much he lost with a signal provider who was in difficulty back then (guy called Binirus) but when he was caught for falsifying numbers, he went all ape shit. You can follow the entire discussion here http://forum.binaryoptions.net/discussion/comment/5863/#Comment_5863 - laughable.

    You want to be a people's champion? Shut up and trade or give something back to the community like traders like Okane are doing instead of trying to defame services who are nothing but honest. I've been with Hive even before their auto trader and can vouch for the profitability of man of their providers. Am I a scam too?

    Every comment I read of yours on this forum is aggressive, abusive and lo and behold I find out you are giving positive comments and reviews on Binary Watchdog, one of the biggest scams in the industry. I'll post that too.

    Pavel
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 8

    Gabman is the same troll who got his ass handed to him by Ryan at Signal Push a few years ago. He lied on this forum about how much he lost with a signal provider who was in difficulty back then (guy called Binirus) but when he was caught for falsifying numbers, he went all ape shit. You can follow the entire discussion here http://forum.binaryoptions.net/discussion/comment/5863/#Comment_5863 - laughable.

    You want to be a people's champion? Shut up and trade or give something back to the community like traders like Okane are doing instead of trying to defame services who are nothing but honest. I've been with Hive even before their auto trader and can vouch for the profitability of man of their providers. Am I a scam too?

    Every comment I read of yours on this forum is aggressive, abusive and lo and behold I find out you are giving positive comments and reviews on Binary Watchdog, one of the biggest scams in the industry. I'll post that too.

    Pavel

    well birinus is the worst trader on the planet, that is confirmed, you don't need a brain to figure that out. i still have the stats on how he trades on my marketsworld real account if anyone wants to see. i can post you the screenshot or video of the money he lost me...that's a FACT..you can pm me....and saying i am giving comments on binary watchdog is a big lie, because i know a scam/fraud when i see one, and i dont even post there einstein.

    now, back to shive-hive......the itm they post on their weekly results is something you simply will never achieve. I would think if you sign up to their ER settings, you would get the same itm as what they release weekly, but you simply won't.....the only credible thing they can do is to use the itm rate of ER/instant replication as their REAL results because this is the only thing that makes sense.

    why are you using oanda feeds while trading on binary.com....it makes 0 sense.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 8
    also pavel jargons...he lost me over $1500...i said about 2k or around 2k...big deal!!! i was risking 1% and he just about blew my account...he still sucks either ways.
  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    edited February 9
    gabman32 said:


    Pavel

    now, back to shive-hive......the itm they post on their weekly results is something you simply will never achieve. I would think if you sign up to their ER settings, you would get the same itm as what they release weekly, but you simply won't.....the only credible thing they can do is to use the itm rate of ER/instant replication as their REAL results because this is the only thing that makes sense.

    why are you using oanda feeds while trading on binary.com....it makes 0 sense.
    Do you have some sort of attention deficit or reading disorder? If not, try and follow what I'm about to write next.

    As they stated above and i can VERIFY it, they have traders from all over the globe who don't trade the signals on Binary.com that is why they have manual ITM and ER ITM. They show both stats, one for the manual traders and one for those who auto-trade. The manual Oanda ITM is a rough indication for manual traders since they can't possibly aggregate results in real time from different brokers with different quotes for their manual signal followers right? (thats impossible).

    The ER ITM, however, that they release weekly is based on CLIENT ENTRIES on Binary.com so the statement "but you simply won't" is just dumb because that data is pulled from client transaction histories, its not made up. I'm a SIGNAL PROVIDER there and my clients who have me on ER are not making money? Is that your claim? So I'm lying about my stats and my clients there are paying me each month for the losses I am delivering?

    I've been a client of Hive on ER for over a year and a signal provider for around 3 months so I would know.

    Sorry but you just lost all credibility again for not understanding how the system works and I have no reason to believe you given your comments on Watchdog. You lied about how much money you lost with Binirus on Signal Push and you are BLATANTLY lying about Signal Hive now despite them giving you FACTUAL EVIDENCE that even you made money LOL.

    One more thing, you do not have the right to call Binirus a crap trader. Maybe he wasn't good, but you're nothing but a whiny troll for defaming Signal Push, the entire service, for 1 weak provider. You're not a trader but a jaded, defamatory client. You knew the risks and you were happy with his martingale style. You even made a lot of money first with him. Ryan, the Signal Push CEO, presented you the data there which is there for all of us to see, and instead of admitting your wrong doing, you ignored it and continued with your ignorant rant. If you don't understand the risks of investing, then get off the pot. You neither shit, but are occupying the pot and so are wasting everyones time.

    I call Troll.

    Pavel
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    edited February 9
    Hello Jibril,

    For some reason you keep saying the same thing again without actually having the courtesy to read our response. That's rude.

    We will say this 1 final time: We post 2 ITMs for each signal stream on the weekly results reports posted on this forum and inside Signal Hive. MAN ITM (Oanda based) is for those who trade our signals manually and ER ITM for those who auto-trade our signals on Binary.com (Binary.com based).

    This latter ER ITM is the actual itm pulled from each binary.com client account connected to our auto-trader, automatically compiled and put into that report you see each week. So it is the "real" itm and all our stats are real. It is what clients are getting. That is what we market our system on. If we have a losing week, you see it in the reports (go ahead and actually read some). If we have a great week, you'll see it in the reports.

    It was surprising to see why this basic concept is causing you so much confusion and anger especially considering your account, JIBRIL GABRIEL, in Signal Hive, was at 60-61% ITM on ER auto-trader mode after 130 trades) but now that Pavel has shed light on your background, we understand what's going on and what the agenda is.

    For those that are not trolls, can read and interpret basic data, have serious questions, please post them here; very happy to delve into the detail of our real stats. This industry attracts bright talents but also the very deranged, unfortunately and we'd like to keep all threads here productive and clean.

    Thanks,
    Team BSB
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  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147

    gabman32 said:


    Pavel

    now, back to shive-hive......the itm they post on their weekly results is something you simply will never achieve. I would think if you sign up to their ER settings, you would get the same itm as what they release weekly, but you simply won't.....the only credible thing they can do is to use the itm rate of ER/instant replication as their REAL results because this is the only thing that makes sense.

    why are you using oanda feeds while trading on binary.com....it makes 0 sense.
    Do you have some sort of attention deficit or reading disorder? If not, try and follow what I'm about to write next.

    As they stated above and i can VERIFY it, they have traders from all over the globe who don't trade the signals on Binary.com that is why they have manual ITM and ER ITM. They show both stats, one for the manual traders and one for those who auto-trade. The manual Oanda ITM is a rough indication for manual traders since they can't possibly aggregate results in real time from different brokers with different quotes for their manual signal followers right? (thats impossible).

    The ER ITM, however, that they release weekly is based on CLIENT ENTRIES on Binary.com so the statement "but you simply won't" is just dumb because that data is pulled from client transaction histories, its not made up. I'm a SIGNAL PROVIDER there and my clients who have me on ER are not making money? Is that your claim? So I'm lying about my stats and my clients there are paying me each month for the losses I am delivering?

    I've been a client of Hive on ER for over a year and a signal provider for around 3 months so I would know.

    Sorry but you just lost all credibility again for not understanding how the system works and I have no reason to believe you given your comments on Watchdog. You lied about how much money you lost with Binirus on Signal Push and you are BLATANTLY lying about Signal Hive now despite them giving you FACTUAL EVIDENCE that even you made money LOL.

    One more thing, you do not have the right to call Binirus a crap trader. Maybe he wasn't good, but you're nothing but a whiny troll for defaming Signal Push, the entire service, for 1 weak provider. You're not a trader but a jaded, defamatory client. You knew the risks and you were happy with his martingale style. You even made a lot of money first with him. Ryan, the Signal Push CEO, presented you the data there which is there for all of us to see, and instead of admitting your wrong doing, you ignored it and continued with your ignorant rant. If you don't understand the risks of investing, then get off the pot. You neither shit, but are occupying the pot and so are wasting everyones time.

    I call Troll.

    Pavel
    like i said idiot, i dont support binary watch dog, i dont know why you keep saying stupid shit like that.

    BIRINUS is A CRAP SHIT trader, he lost and blew accounts, tried again an still blew more accounts (anyone can ask signalpush
    for his stats) he simply sucks......, i am glad i got out fast.

    Eventually, you will lose people's money too pavel, it is just a matter of time, i am watching you, when you do, ill be here to update this post, because most traders on shive lose, the only profitabe trader is sake.

    I didnt make any money with signal hive, because i remember not coming out with as much money as i invested, so shive guys...you
    need to look at your stats again. Also keep in mind that most of my wins came from sake and payout were as low as 60% at times..

    I have attached shots of what i mean in this reply, EVERYONE OR ANYONE can check it out for themselves..

    ive taken perfomance from robots in the last year, also some robot signals that were not posted are in the 60%( think you wont blow your account due to sequential stability while in the 60%, i beg to differ) :)

    SIGNAL HIVE...THIS IS ALL I AM SAYING- when you post a weekly result, PLEASE post the results gotten from ER, this is the only VERIFIABLE stat you have, the manual itm is FICTIONAL AS YOU dont know what or how everyone did.

    ((pavel i am watching you, as i am 100% sure you would lose people's money, prove me wrong))
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  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    In the screenshot i posted, you can take for example, pulse in the last year, on your shive page, manual did 64.4%? whose stat is this? who did 64.4% on pulse? the only verifiable stat for pulse is 53% that can be pulled out from binary.com, this is the real stat that should be all over signal hive not 64.4%....that is deceptive.
  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    edited February 9
    gabman32 said:

    In the screenshot i posted, you can take for example, pulse in the last year, on your shive page, manual did 64.4%? whose stat is this? who did 64.4% on pulse? the only verifiable stat for pulse is 53% that can be pulled out from binary.com, this is the real stat that should be all over signal hive not 64.4%....that is deceptive.

    Hello Jibril,

    That is the Signal Hive Analytics area you show in your screenshots; it is our service that you are using to pull those stats. We provide this because we are transparent. It's not like you have taken those stats out of some deep data exercise by contacting BInary.com behind our backs. We show ER stats and MAN stats for all signals to all parties, members or not. Yes Pulse was unprofitable and we show that every week. Turbo was unprofitable too (although on Manual it made members a lot of money). We laugh about those signals inside Hive daily (ask our members). Your point makes little sense; you are trying to position yourself as some kind of hero as if there is some conspiracy here but we have real stats to falsify each and every claim of yours. Of course there is a differential between MAN ITM and ER ITM and we show it very clearly so you should respect that instead of accuse us of showing both, which is just illogical?

    The MAN stats as we have always stated are indicative only only as 20% of our user base is trading at a range of brokers manually and we have no live feed of reporting those outcomes as we do with Binary.com's ER feed. No one is misleading people to join the service because we openly write the difference between the two on every single performance update (which you clearly haven't ever read or this entire conversation would have ended days ago). Please go and read a performance update then come back so we can have a professional discussion. If we were not showing ER and only showing MAN stats then your point is valid. Your point is invalid however, because we show both stats for transparency, not obfuscation.

    As for the erroneous statement that "only Sake is profitable", you clearly know how to operate Hive Analytics so pull up Dive from Jan 2016 to now, what does it show?
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    Now look at Wave on ER, here it is:
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    You're telling us that these signals with 68% ITM and 65% ITM on ER on 100s of signals are not profitable?

    And even adjusting for variance, Curve and the other signals that were just 60-62% on ER were profitbale last year, so let's move beyond the conspiracy that "only Sake is profitable" "shive is hiding something" or "60% signals are not profitable with sequential stability". We are financial engineers and statisticians, if you want to talk variance, standard deviation adjusted win-rate, kurtosis, distributions, entropy, we are very happy to up the ante but let us summarize for you because you will fall very flat in that discussion with our engineers; many many robots on ER inside Hive last year were profitable, not just Sake. The sooner you accept that reality, the sooner we can move this thread back to reality and away from the twilight zone.

    As for your own stats; because we don't want to embarrass and show people your entire set of wins/losses, we are keeping it decent. Here is the simple fact Jibril, you were in Hive for around 1.5 months and had 80 wins, 53 losses. Average payout on your replications was 72% (the 60% figure it seems you made up). Do the profit multiple maths and you'll see your balance went up. Pardon us if we don't take your statements at face value given you openly lied about your losses at Signal Push, which the link Pavel posted earlier proves.

    Your call. We have all the data and we're happy to go on all year if required. This is actually fun, someone using our stats to attack our stats.

    Team BSB
    Blue Sky Binary - Research, Education & Technology.
    Signal Hive - The No.1 Binary Signals Marketplace.

  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    edited February 9
    GABMAN WROTE
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    Here is a LIVE SCREENSHOT OF YOUR YOUTUBE SUBSCRIPTIONS.

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    Let's see, The Binary Lab by Julian Wong one of the biggest affiliate marketing scandals to hit this space in years. You're a member.

    Next, PRINT MY ATM, one of the oldest gigs and scams probably as bad as Mike's auto trader and not only are you subscribed but you actively comment there.

    Had enough? Or let's see some more
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    You're a flat Earther and believer in Jeranism and are trying to talk stats to ex floor traders?

    Regarding your prophecies of me eventually blowing accounts, since you've been wrong in almost every way so far, why don't we cross that bridge if/when we come to it? Right now i'm making money for my subscribers, which is a lot more than i can say for your whiny inaccurate ass. Never seen you trade, oh that's right all you do is follow.

    Reality check bro. There are 3 types of people in Binary. Traders, marketers and trolls. Atleast upgrade to being a marketer, I get it you can't really trade but being a troll, there isn't much money in it, neither dignity. Don't believe me? Look at what happened to that twat lotzofbotz. He used to be a troll here just like you. He got thrown out and now at-least he is trying to make a living as an affiliate marketer. You should try upgrading. It's within your reach!

    Pavel

    p.s consider rebranding to Gabtard. It's befitting.
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    what subscriptions on youtube??? wtf are you talking about pavel jargon???

    anyways, back to shive....i didnt make profit, it is that simple, the payout was not good, the sub fees was an additional cost too etc

    you show 68% but keep in mind that 53% had so much more trades which would destroy any so called profitability you claim....however

    i dont need to see MAN itm win rate because that can be made up or falsified, the only thing that is VERIFIABLE AND TRUE is what you pull out from binary.com and with those low payout i got...60% can be debated to not be really profit or prob stalemate, also let's put into light that your max inv/trade is 25 bucks....prob $5 profit for the month.....YYYYAAAAYYYYY!!!!!
  • Blue Sky BinaryBlue Sky Binary Posts: 111
    edited February 9
    Hello Jibril,

    68% is Dive ER. Wave ER is 65%. There are clients who have made thousands of dollars just subscribing to the profitable bots as we recommend in House Settings.

    53% is Pulse ER, but who asked you to subscribe to pulse on ER? The Hawkeye setting for auto-trader for Pulse is NR...You subscribe to the safest streams; Signal Hive is a market place which gives users the ability to attach and detach streams. You claimed that "Sake is the only profitable" stream; that's misleading as Dive, Wave, Curve are other profitable bots on ER. For the less safe bots, look at our suggested Hawkeye settings and you'll see that most are on either VLR or NR setting.

    If you subscribed to Pulse and put it on ER, of course you'd dilute profitability but that's a completely separate argument. Only a very ignorant user will come in, switch everything on ER and expect to become rich. For the record, we can see here the streams you subscribed to and you were only on Dive, Core, Sake.

    With regards to "low payout", you missed what we wrote above; your average payout was 72% (not 60%) so kindly stop misrepresenting facts about your results like you did with Signal Push. We have your transaction IDs which we store which shows the average payout. Next we'll start publishing these at which point you'll move the argument to "I don't like the colors of Hive's user interface." It's a shifting target with scammers these days.

    Again, with regards to the max trade size being $25; that's inaccurate as well. After you sign the liability waiver, and we approve it, you can trade with significantly higher trade sizes. If your monthly salary is $500 and are on unemployment benefits, it is possible we did not approve your waiver request to protect you.

    We don't approve all waivers if the client's financial condition is not at par with what is required to trade in the risky financial markets. That's called due diligence.

    Team BSB
    Blue Sky Binary - Research, Education & Technology.
    Signal Hive - The No.1 Binary Signals Marketplace.

  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    edited February 9
    gabman32 said:

    what subscriptions on youtube??? wtf are you talking about pavel jargon???


    Your name as I have confirmed with Hive is Jibril Gabriel or Gabriel Jibril or whatever fake name you have given yourself. Your online persona is Gabman. Your YouTube is Gabriel J. Those are your youtube subscriptions from your youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/hunt1110011

    It covers the entire range of scams, Print my ATM, The Binary Lab, even some affiliate marketing videos ( LOL ) and flat earth science videos.

    Do not make a further fool of yourself or I will post your comments on various videos on those channels proving that its you.

    Gabtard, why don't you bring your troll ass on Hive and trade with me? Let's compete.

    Pavel
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 9

    gabman32 said:

    what subscriptions on youtube??? wtf are you talking about pavel jargon???


    Your name as I have confirmed with Hive is Jibril Gabriel or Gabriel Jibril or whatever fake name you have given yourself. Your online persona is Gabman. Your YouTube is Gabriel J. Those are your youtube subscriptions from your youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/hunt1110011

    It covers the entire range of scams, Print my ATM, The Binary Lab, even some affiliate marketing videos ( LOL ) and flat earth science videos.

    Do not make a further fool of yourself or I will post your comments on various videos on those channels proving that its you.

    Gabtard, why don't you bring your troll ass on Hive and trade with me? Let's compete.

    Pavel
    so subscribing to a channel means you support the channel's ideas??? i dont even know were to start...i am the same person...if you took the time to do the research einstein.....that bashed binary lab guy couple of days ago for recommending 24options....

    also i am not with print my atm....infact how does this even prove i support scams??? dude, do u have any logic??

    anyways....im still waiting on were you said i support binary watchdog idiot....support your original claim.

    going to my youtube channel to look for any form of vindication makes you look desperate because there isn't one, and i
    never claimed to be a shitty trader dummy...you only make money from people's subscriptions, that is why you need shive.

    I'll wait patiently until you blow people's account, then i'll have a field day with you....u still haven't proven anything
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147

    Hello Jibril,

    68% is Dive ER. Wave ER is 65%. There are clients who have made thousands of dollars just subscribing to the profitable bots as we recommend in House Settings.

    53% is Pulse ER, but who asked you to subscribe to pulse on ER? The Hawkeye setting for auto-trader for Pulse is NR...You subscribe to the safest streams; Signal Hive is a market place which gives users the ability to attach and detach streams. You claimed that "Sake is the only profitable" stream; that's misleading as Dive, Wave, Curve are other profitable bots on ER. For the less safe bots, look at our suggested Hawkeye settings and you'll see that most are on either VLR or NR setting.

    If you subscribed to Pulse and put it on ER, of course you'd dilute profitability but that's a completely separate argument. Only a very ignorant user will come in, switch everything on ER and expect to become rich. For the record, we can see here the streams you subscribed to and you were only on Dive, Core, Sake.

    With regards to "low payout", you missed what we wrote above; your average payout was 72% (not 60%) so kindly stop misrepresenting facts about your results like you did with Signal Push. We have your transaction IDs which we store which shows the average payout. Next we'll start publishing these at which point you'll move the argument to "I don't like the colors of Hive's user interface." It's a shifting target with scammers these days.

    Again, with regards to the max trade size being $25; that's inaccurate as well. After you sign the liability waiver, and we approve it, you can trade with significantly higher trade sizes. If your monthly salary is $500 and are on unemployment benefits, it is possible we did not approve your waiver request to protect you.

    We don't approve all waivers if the client's financial condition is not at par with what is required to trade in the risky financial markets. That's called due diligence.

    Team BSB

    all i am saying is show the instant replication results.....manual itm can be made up and falsified, im not even sure why you guys are controlling what people invest, but that is btw....why wont you agree to use only binary.com stat? i guess because you wouldnt have any means to make up stats.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 9
    lets do some facts check pavel jargons.....you keep spitting jargons.


    no 1. im not a flat earther, because i am subscribed to a channel, doesn't mean i support their idea.

    no 2. I am NOT a member of binary lab....but i guess a fool like you would approximate what people think when they do something.

    no3. I am a six figure marketer, i dont go around begging to blow people's account like you pavel jargons.



    also, shive, take out mr.sake ( whom i already said is a good trader) let's see how good my itm % would be.....
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    one more thing MR pavel jargons....i dont need or rather like to do this, but let me show the stat of one of my affiliate programs results from last yr...

    we need to get some FACTS straight...this is one one screenshot, i have 10 other aff programs that i ACTUALLY market and promote...i dont need to beg shive for people to subscribe to my losing trading/gambling strategy.

    this is only one of my marketing partners....did almost $3m in business for them last yr...we are not on the same level dude...or even on the same logical ground....don't dream.
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  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    edited February 9
    gabman32 said:



    so subscribing to a channel means you support the channel's ideas???

    one more thing MR pavel jargons....i dont need or rather like to do this, but let me show the stat of one of my affiliate programs results from last yr...

    we need to get some FACTS straight...this is one one screenshot, i have 10 other aff programs that i ACTUALLY market and promote...i dont need to beg shive for people to subscribe to my losing trading/gambling strategy.

    this is only one of my marketing partners....did almost $3m in business for them last yr...we are not on the same level dude...or even on the same logical ground....don't dream.

    Gabtard, do my ER stats on Hive look like a gambling or losing strategy to you LOL? But let's get back to your YouTube, I'm really interested now.

    Hypothetically, if you went to a person's YouTube channel and found him or her subscribing to videos on "how to make bombs" "exotic dildos" and "top 10 serial murders" yeah, I wouldn't blame you if you thought that, that person was seriously messed up. Or would you think oh wow that person has interesting research interests.

    Now...you have videos of conspiracies of the Earth being flat (you even Liked the "Evolution debunked video" and then you are subscribed to alternative religion videos of Jarenism. On the binary side, I see channel subscriptions of the biggest scams in the industry so yeah, where there is smoke, there is fire.
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    With regards to your claims of being a "six figure internet marketer", you do understand that you have lost all credibility here as regards figures and numbers right? You can't get 1 stat right in Hive as proven above and in the Signal Push case you were proven wrong by over 5 different parties in that thread. So why should I believe an internet marketer who has a history of lies, telling me he is a millionaire?

    Also, you're a millionaire internet marketer with 7 youtube subscribers?
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    So to summarise, you are a Flat Earth (which is scientifically disproven) theorist, who doesn't believe in Evolution (which is scientifically proven) who has 7 youtube subscribers but is a millionaire internet marketer?

    Yours truly,
    Pavel
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 9
    you are a naive moron.

    first off, there is no where in my statement were i said i was a millionaire, i said, i am a six figure per year internet marketer.(omg you r so stupid)
    also fool(evolution is not scientifically proven but that is an argument for another day).

    If you summarise by me subscribing to a channel makes me a supporter of what they do, then that is your OWN logic, it doesn't make it TRUTH.

    i am a member of clicksure, i use them to check the latest binary options scam, does it mean i support their products?

    pls don't use your logic to analyze mine, because we are not on the same level, on anything.
  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    gabman32 said:

    you are a naive moron.

    first off, there is no where in my statement were i said i was a millionaire, i said, i am a six figure per year internet marketer.(omg you r so stupid)
    also fool(evolution is not scientifically proven but that is an argument for another day).

    If you summarise by me subscribing to a channel makes me a supporter of what they do, then that is your OWN logic, it doesn't make it TRUTH.

    i am a member of clicksure, i use them to check the latest binary options scam, does it mean i support their products?

    pls don't use your logic to analyze mine, because we are not on the same level, on anything.

    Gabtard, you said "I did 3m in business for them last year" so you implied you are a millionaire. Oh wait did Reginal Stinson screw you over so thats why you ended up getting only "six figures"? Show me your bank account statements and I'll believe it. Remember, you're speaking to a floor trader who is all about the numbers. I don't lie like you about stats.

    Evolution is the most probable working theory and beats what you 7th Day Adventists or Creationists believe. So the fact that you give a big thumbs up to those Evolution videos proves your mindset.

    7 Youtube subscribers = at max you are making $10k per year and not even close to six figures.

    You are a member of clicksure, a known affiliate marketing hotbed for scam products. You have an affiliate marketing link to Print My ATM and liked their channel. So yes you support their products.

    Gaby
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    well, i am done arguing with someone that just sits down and make up stuff. i did 3m in business for them last yr= i am a millionaire? did you look at my payout? smh....

    you bash creationist but believe in A BIG BANG theory...lol

    i have 7 youtube subs? i didnt realize it...tell me more...and i dont need youtube to make money, im not a youtuber, but in your own
    head, as you always do mr jargons, you approximate all things, and predict what someone thinks or is doing.

    i have an affiliate marketing link to print my atm??? lol....you are obviously trolling me at this point, good one.
  • paveljablonpaveljablon Posts: 102
    edited February 9
    gabman32 said:

    well, i am done arguing with someone that just sits down and make up stuff. i did 3m in business for them last yr= i am a millionaire? did you look at my payout? smh....

    you bash creationist but believe in A BIG BANG theory...lol

    i have 7 youtube subs? i didnt realize it...tell me more...and i dont need youtube to make money, im not a youtuber, but in your own
    head, as you always do mr jargons, you approximate all things, and predict what someone thinks or is doing.

    i have an affiliate marketing link to print my atm??? lol....you are obviously trolling me at this point, good one.

    You may be done arguing but I'm not. Trolls like you need to be put in their place, which is quite frankly, the dustbin.

    Umm, no I believe in evolution and I don't believe in the Big Bang. Big Bang and evolution are not linked Gabtard. I know bible studies tells you they are but they aren't. Big Bang is planetary creation and evolution is biological on Earth.

    Inventory Check
    You don't believe in evolution which you just confirmed. Check.

    You are an affiliate marketer on clicksure, a marketplace for scam products. Check.

    You like and subscribe to Print my ATM and Binary Lab. Check.

    You can't read stats. Check.

    You were crying over a few hundred to a few thousand dollars in the Signal Push incident but you boast to be a mover and shaker in the marketing space generating millions for clients and earning six figures yourself. Check.

    Which products do you peddle on clicksure apart from Print my ATM? I'm going to write to the Binary Bears to do a video on your whiny ass.

    Pavel
    Transparent Binary Options trader and former floor trader. Now giving signals to help people safely to make money at Signal Hive Please do not contact me to manage your account, I will never take anyone's money. You can see my live performance on Signal Hive and subscribe to me there.
  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 9
    well NASA believes in the big bang, they told you the earth is a sphere, you took it, so you cant say you dont believe in the big bang, you can't take some of what nasa tells you and leave the other. you believe in evolution but if you actually did the research, all your transitional macro specie of animals has been discovered fraudulent, not even one transitional specie exist....i really dont wanna get into this argument on here so stop being a fool.

    i wont even argue with you about what i promote and dont promote since your so called "checks" have no proof...so do you.

    the only thing you got right for the day is "You were crying over a few hundred to a few thousand dollars in the Signal Push incident but you boast to be a mover and shaker in the marketing space generating millions for clients and earning six figures yourself. Check."

    that is the only correct statement you made all day, and you got it partly, as i was pointing out a gambling degenerate called BIRINUS... clap for yourself.

  • gabman32gabman32 Posts: 147
    edited February 9
    also, the reason it's pointless arguing with you is because you just create something out of no basis. for example....if i say your mum is a prostitute in thailand, i know this because i slept with her the last time i went on a vacation, but then when you ask me..

    were is the proof, i then say.....also, she stole my bags and possession....but then you ask me for the proof of the two statements i just made...

    i then say, she even slept with my friend for $1 and then you still have no proof, but made 3 solid statements...how does one argue with someone like this?

    not unless you believe what you are saying is true, in that case, my example might just be truth with that logic.
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