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Mr. and Mrs. Pips (only $10)

MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
edited December 2014 in Signals/Robots/Autotraders etc
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Hi all - Normally I try and stay away from posting about my service but seeing as though I have a lot of faith in people, I hope doing this will attract the right kind of subscribers and will allow me to keep my service the way I'm currently offering it. As you can see from my client stats below, I'm making about $6.54/sub which just isn't worth it to me

What is Mr. and Mrs. Pips?
A binary option fully automated signal service utilizing the industry leading SignalPush technology. The binary platform is marketsworld.com. The Mr. and Mrs. duo presents a binary signal service where the only trades we take are trades that our customers are sent. If trades are good enough for our personal accounts, they are good enough for you.

Performance so far (as of May 17th, 2014)
Currently #1 overall on the SignalPush leaderboards with 68% ITM overall performance. 79% ITM this month so far and my beta period at SignalPush was 78% ITM.

Full transparency client stats:
$70,501.80 trade volume
$13,845.37 profit made
79 subscribers
With total donations so far of $738 (5% of what the profits were)
SignalPush takes 30% so that leaves me with $517
$517/79subs = $6.54/client

Most other services are charging a minimum of $99/mo upwards of $5k/mo (and people are happily paying it).

What's different about this service?
Well for starters, the pricing is different than any other service. It's only $10/mo to start and 100% of the proceeds from that are donated to a charity. Other than that, just use the feature within SignalPush to donate to me what you feel my service is worth. So I only get paid on what you donate separate from the $10. I will only continue this service at this pricing if I feel customers are being appreciative and actually donating. Of course it is much appreciated if you use my Marketsworld link when you sign up for an account as that helps me keep the service at the current pricing as well.

Don't forget the skype room
If you're a subscriber, don't forget to contact SignalPush and make sure you're added into my skype room. I often go over why I took trades, send screenshots, and I may in the future offer free educational sessions with my subscribers unlike other providers who want to charge extra for this.

How can I subscribe?
Open an account at Marketsworld (use my link if possible on my signup page) and then subscribe to my service at signalpush: https://www.signalpush.com/providers/mrandmrspipsmw.

And don't forget to spread the word! The more subs we can get and the more donations, the longer we can keep this pricing model going.

Unlike many other providers, I will post weekly my stats here, regardless of if they are good or bad.

Comments

  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    I don't mind so much as you are trading a real account, which imo should be a requirement for SignalProviders least you get an account blower like VorteXz which imo Signal Push only deleted him after the damage was done = they were paid first. Since you don't CRY like a little girl for subs as Mr.Alum and Karol do, its cool. Of course if you worked part time at a fast food place you could make just as much! Too bad SPs can still not be paid based on performance = % of profits instead of monthly. You want to best you have to draw them out... I would rather have 10-20 subs that had actually money = $500 or more per trade and receive a % based on performance. Real trading we look at what we make in ROI a month. These providers worrying about their win %s fishing for n00bs and being reckless with their money management which imo they don't really have any is just 100% RETARDED. Whatever the beat goes on but somebody who is a GREAT trader not just so so just laughs at the current SP business model, if not FAIR it is pointless imo... $10 *smacks self in head want to wash my cars? It will pay alot more!
  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    Thanks Lotz, but this is part of the idea. I can't legally charge (no one can) based on performance. But what I CAN do is make an extremely small starting fee and hope (I know, maybe I have too much faith in people) that people will donate additionally. If they want to donate a % of their profits, ok, that's their choice and not me telling them to. So it's kind of a legal way to do profit sharing but it's legal because it's not a set in stone requirement and it's not me telling them what to donate, when, and why. If no one donates and I'm wrong about people, then I'll stop the service.

    Regardless of whether this pricing model works out or not, at least a charity is getting a donation and some clients made some money.

    Thoughts on how to do it differently that might work better are always welcome.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    You can't charge based on performance in a country like the U.S. hell you can't do just about anything due to the inside play ground of the CFTC/Wallstreet/NYC/Chicago/IRS the whole Frank Dodd is not there to protect investors as much as it is to keep the flow of money inside the United States which is unfair trade practices being applied and breaks many WTO LAWS as well is 100% UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The only reason the United States has not been sued by anybody is because well they are the big bully and everybody is too afraid to fight them honestly. The lack of overseas brokers/competition has allowed and actually has increased the SCAM brokers so in truth the CFTC is the root cause of the underlying issues we have today. They don't give a "PHUCK!" as long as their members are getting paid NYSE MERC NADEX on and on and gets worse because it also to support other corrupt forms of gambling aka Lotto inland casinos. All a joke, now back to the reality is this as a trader trying to increase your funds I understand wanting to be paid fairly you should be. I would slowly increase your fee forget the donation strategy, the n00bs that subscribe to you will not pay you simply because they are a herd/mob/hookers you need to show your PIMP HAND and smack a B---- up! Other then that a country like the UK you could charge a fee based on performance foward out based on account size indirectly in a monthly agreement without directly charging a performance fee if you get me. Maybe service like that in the future would attract a really baller trader then again the broker would go out of their FRIGGIN minds, but would be funny as hell to watch lol. Are you in the U.S.? How close of a relationship do you have with your subs? You seem to know their exact earnings which seems extremely small you don't have 1 decent sized trader with you? Geez 14k I can make that in a day. You seem like you are talented if you need money I would suggest you just increase the monthly fee to about $49 with your performance which is really #3 in overall relative profit % terms, though you trade well you have very small amount of trades which is fine but those providers with 200 trades just a few %s under you are more profitable overall, which I am sure you factored in. I would skip the donations and just increase your monthly fee, You are profitable and the % you are making I doubt your subs will leave you. You seeking donations is a joke and not worth the effort, though in a perfect world lol... You are a business not a charity... GET IT, GOT IT, GOOD...
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    Another thing you can do is trade size on your own account on a % basis as I do foward out. That means this simply due to your high win rate you can trade 2%-5% a trade compounded right. Now go through your trade history and factor in your stats with different trade scenarios or %s in the above terms to see your relative drawdown vs earnings and tell me if that makes more sense to you to focus on your own trading account a bit more. Remember this first and foremost you are a TRADER profits are your life blood, your own trading size and account should be paramount over any sub/clients you have as they are just sucker fish hanging on the shark for a free ride/meal YOU ARE THE REAL KILLER ;)
  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    I'm only doing this service to help people as too many are looking for a solid signal provider who doesn't go crazy in a bipolar way like many of them do. That said, it does take my time to find trades, help people in the chat, and provide the service so I do need it to be worth my time... At least for the most part. I'm not trying to get rich off it, or even live off of it. Just trying to help people out and make a little for my time. It's not even really about making anything for my time, as I don't need the money, it's more about the principle of people respecting my time and efforts and feeling it's worth something, not just trying to get something for free.

    I discussed with several attorneys and they all gave me the same answer. Regardless of the location of the signal provider, they strongly advise against charging a fee based on profit watermark, like other markets do a standard 15/2 or 20/2 fee structure.

    All that said, as I stated in my original post, I haven't given up hope that I have decent subscribers and they will donate what they feel it was worth. I know for a fact people are paying over $4,000/mo for signals with other providers on SP, I just didn't want to be another one of those. We will see how it goes over the next few weeks.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    Look I like you and yer cool logo you seem also like a decent guy but don't be a RA TARD. I have given my time for free as well as money even money from here and other traders to other traders starting out and that is charity, its also sometimes expensive lol. You are a business on Signal Push and that is fine nothing wrong with that. You want to be paid fairly nothing wrong with that too, phuck get yer head out ya ass and just charge $49 a month which for what you produce is fair which will keep most of your subs. What you do or don't do with your money is yer own business, nobody gives a phuck! You have a service you produce X and get Y end of phucking story...



  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    Thanks for your input! Appreciate it.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    One thing your signature should be, might want to correct that --> https://www.signalpush.com/providers/mrandmrspipsmw/# <-- Also understand not trying to be mean but I did the calculations in my head how much each sub was likely to make along with the average account size per trade amount ect ect in a variable scale and $49 was the winning amount on a relative basis vs your competition and their results you produced there in. Other then that the trading you do is solid but you want to make more then trade more, if you have to talent to trade higher volume which many don't and turn into a VorteXz = emotional gambler just waiting to bust out. The market does not allow no talent pikers to stick around long. If you can increase your trading volume you will attract more subs if you continue to keep a nice win rate above 2 out of 3.
  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10

    One thing your signature should be, might want to correct that --> https://www.signalpush.com/providers/mrandmrspipsmw/# <-- Also understand not trying to be mean but I did the calculations in my head how much each sub was likely to make along with the average account size per trade amount ect ect in a variable scale and $49 was the winning amount on a relative basis vs your competition and their results you produced there in. Other then that the trading you do is solid but you want to make more then trade more, if you have to talent to trade higher volume which many don't and turn into a VorteXz = emotional gambler just waiting to bust out. The market does not allow no talent pikers to stick around long. If you can increase your trading volume you will attract more subs if you continue to keep a nice win rate above 2 out of 3. </p>

    Good catch. Thanks. I'll def keep that pricing in mind if this model doesn't work out!
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    Good Luck! Don't get pissed though when somebody sends you a discount coupon for a free Mcdonalds 39 cent hamburger...
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  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    Figures, I decide to post and things go south. My luck! May want to hold off if anyone was considering joining as I'm having a pretty rough week. Just keep an eye on it and come when I've gotten myself out of this rut.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    Focus on trading, make life simple, all this brain masturbation must be a son of a ____ to deal with. Why do you have to MIND PHUCK yourself? Signal Push should hire a psychologist for some of you guys because you really are wrapped tight.. Here is what you are doing wrong you are taking thoughts and DESIRES trying to turn them into trades = RETARDED. Don't worry about making money, that takes care of itself. You worry about taking good trades... So get back to good trading raise your prices to $49 a month and SHUT THE PHUCK UP!!! I feel like calling the WAAAAAMBULANCE for you...
  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10

    Focus on trading, make life simple, all this brain masturbation must be a son of a ____ to deal with. Why do you have to MIND PHUCK yourself? Signal Push should hire a psychologist for some of you guys because you really are wrapped tight.. Here is what you are doing wrong you are taking thoughts and DESIRES trying to turn them into trades = RETARDED. Don't worry about making money, that takes care of itself. You worry about taking good trades... So get back to good trading raise your prices to $49 a month and SHUT THE PHUCK UP!!! I feel like calling the WAAAAAMBULANCE for you...

    Yes, being a provider is a mind "f". I don't feel good about raising my prices though until I get myself out of my rut.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    Stubborn you are... I tell you though you can't see it. You are the enemy of U... Can I make it more simple for you, RAISE your prices now and blame it on me! There I told you what to do.. Ok now what you do is listen and don't be retarded. DO NOT equate your performance with your pay. Why you ask? Because you are in DESIRE/CHASE mode and that is 100% separate from trading. The reason why you guys don't have better performance is because you are too busy trying to IMPRESS PEOPLE WITH YOUR STATS! When you do that you are CHASING and focused on results/desires of money and not making good trades.. How many times do I have to repeat this? Don't do that, simple enough.. RAISE the prices to $49 and stop thinking about it and get back to trading instead ok done done done! Just phucking do it and be DONE for the love of god with it!
  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    Thanks for your input. I'll raise my prices soon enough. Would have to figure out how to charge $49 without asking for separate donations since the minimum a provider can charge on SP is $99.
  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    As promised. My update for this week:

    Trade volume: $97453.63
    Trade P/L: $1116.4392

    Wow, what a week. Big drop in overall P/L. Truly sorry for anyone who joined this week. I let some things get to me and I traded when I normally would not of, including different days and hours than normal. Starting this coming week, I'm going back to not trading on Monday or Fridays and not trading before 7:15am CST. I also will not be using a loss limit, as that just limits the ability to recover. If you want to use a loss limit, please use the balance stop option within SignalPush. As with most investment markets, please make sure to use good money management practices to be able to sustain periods of low performance. As long as I do my job, it should all work out. Thanks for those who've had patience with me this week. Luckily we ended the losing streak and ended today profitable but still ended the week at a loss. I heard some of you had errors on the first trade at Marketsworld (they've been sent a few emails about it) and so you missed the loss and got the two wins.

    Have a good weekend everyone.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    WTF! How are you processing payments if not through signal push and are they running a charity now?! Yer hurting muh brain dude... Charge $99 then... Move on to making good trades you can't do more then 2-3 trades a day geezuz and not keep at least 2 out of 3 for a win rate omg...
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  • MrAndMrsPipsMrAndMrsPips Posts: 10
    edited May 2014

    WTF! How are you processing payments if not through signal push and are they running a charity now?! Yer hurting muh brain dude... Charge $99 then... Move on to making good trades you can't do more then 2-3 trades a day geezuz and not keep at least 2 out of 3 for a win rate omg...

    SignalPush processes the payments but we currently have an agreement that I will pay them the $29.70 per client (30% of $99) that signs up, since I hope to make that back and more from the donations.

    Anyways, as I mentioned, no need to keep talking about the cost. I'll raise it after this month is up. Thanks for all your input.
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    Let me get this straight you are paying Signal Push $30 a month per client and charging $10 a month + hoping for donations to cover the balance... Of course that makes zero phucking sense, are you profiting some other way like with an affiliate or do you clean their houses too/wash peoples cars for extra money? WTF!I want to buy you a helmet and send you away to a special camp. When you see a small yellow bus pull up to your house just know its for you! Durrrr Durrrrr Durrrrr *BRAIN FAILURE!!! ERROR ERROR!!!

  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2014
    Sorry had to ban him for being RETARDED... But you can tell everybody how special you are now! First one to ever be banned due to their being mentally handicapped! *CLAPS
  • lotzofbotzlotzofbotz Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭
    I look and find that Mr/Mrs Pips is Signal Push aka Ryan -

    On 1/2/14, at 9:41 PM, ryan.h.masten wrote:
    Renaud, I have many times.
    Just take me for example.
    Mr and mrs pips.
    71% Sep, 63% oct, 76% nov. How is that not consistently profitable?

    You are a dishonorable douchebag, this whole client push to get people to join your service then all of a sudden you hit a losing streak of uncharacteristic behavior. Now I wonder did you take a kick back for losing from the associate you have @ Markets World? Oh its just coincidence huh. How come we see this coincidence repeated over and over again in different circumstances with Signal Push. You confirm my suspicions about you over and over. You are a low life creep that phucks his own customers over and you are lucky binary options are not regulated in the U.S. because you belong in Jail imo. I bet if the FBI did an investigation of you they would find enough proof to put your dishonest cheating ass in prison...
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